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To call them autistic or people with autism
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RE: To call them autistic or people with autism
(January 10, 2016 at 11:47 am)MTL Wrote:
(January 10, 2016 at 10:56 am)pool Wrote: home run

edit;
I don't mean to offend, but some women seriously need to get rid of this victim complex of theirs.

I acknowledged that my post was poorly-phrased,
I am actually annoyed with myself because it conveyed the exact opposite
of what I was endeavoring to say.


I don't mind if people disagree with me,
but I don't like being misunderstood,
and I hate when it is my own fault,
which it is, in this case.

I actually agree with LemonVariable insofar it should NEVER become a contest
as to which group suffers more;

there is no excuse for ignorance, stereotyping, or stigmatizing, ANYWHERE.


However, both you and LemonVariable are guilty of labeling feminism as "victims"
No I said they vicitmize other women, which they do, go read the huge amount of feminist rhetoric is claiming women are victims of "insert here". It is fucking infantilizing, as many of the women I know are just as capable adults as men.

Quote:It is one thing if he wants to criticize me for sounding like I am starting a competition to see who is the most oppressed; that is valid.
and that was litterally how you opened up
Quote:But for him, or you, to turn around and say that feminists need to stop whining and playing the victim card
is unacceptable;
But they are, especially with domestic abuse stats. Ex http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-x/20...03-eng.htm
Now name one feminist with a popular following that has addressed the fact that those stats are very evenly spread. You probably won't find one as in canada even groups like cafe are barred from speaking by feminists.
Quote:This is self-contradictory for LemonVariable to draw attention to how Autistic people are stigmatized,
yet call feminists victims.
No its not. name one group, let alone one as large as feminism is as a movement campaigning for the right of people with autism? Name one. I for one am not advocating for how we portrayed in tv (although the fact that big theory is considered socially acceptable pisses me off) I advocate for my right not to be thrown out of college when they find out what I have (Yes that happened to me) or to spend 10 years on fucking ritalin because I was mis-diagnosed. Then you have feminist like anita sarkeeisian getting up at the fucking UN and talk about how women are victims because of how their portrayed in video games. It is as absurd as a mra complaining about how a ken doll portrays men. 
Quote:Women are still paid less than men,
Utter bullshit, that has been debunked agian and agian
Here is an article from time, written by a well known feminist addressing that very topic
Quote:still oppressed in many parts of the world,
That is true, however I have yet to see how feminism in the western world is able to provide solutions for this. Futhermore many feminists online have been actively defending islam, arguably the most sexist ideology in the modern world.
Quote:still having their genitals mutilated,
While true, this is typically happening in countries where western feminists are basically laughed out of the room, So again I fail to see how western feminism can deal with this, especially how when these activities are carried out in western countries, they perpeturators are swiftly presecuted and scorned. (When report obviously). Also nearly 50% of young boys have they gentelia mutilated as part of circumision. 
Quote:and right here, in North America, we also face a growing problem of human trafficking of young women;
that is addressed in a interesting manner in the time article I linked. Eitherway trafficking anyone is a problem,
Quote:...yet he wants to dismiss any feminists as "victims",
while holding up Autistic people as unfairly persecuted
I don't want to dismiss feminists at all. What I want is for them to cut all this "woa is me" bullshit and focus on real issues before the movement is discredited entirely. Its not me me really that is dismissing them as victims, it is their own rhetoric, I see more sexism out of people like Zoey quinn and anita sarkeeisian then most people on the internet. How they potray women is patronizing and infantilizing. Especially when women that disagree speak up. 
Quote:...and in the same breath claim that it is unsavoury for different groups to compete
for the title of 'Most-Persecuted'.
No just a stupid fucking waste of the time. But since you dove in with the opening line "Women have been oppressed since the dawn of time"  and keep rattling on about how women are oppressed, you keep this going, and you pissed me off a little spouting things like we need feminism because of how women are potrayed on tv. Mean while we get thrown out of colleges. I am sorry if this seems self contradictioning, but this is because you were being very dismissive.
Quote:Now, that addresses LemonVariable's self-contradiction;

But since you've jumped in with your two cents, Pool,
let me pose you a different question:

Do you consider the "Black Lives Matter"  movement as "whining"?
Some of them are, like those fucks that made that song called "fuck, paris" but the majority I have read are campaigning so they might live in a world some day where they don't have to worry about being shot by some racist pig cop. 
Quote:or does it absolutely have legitimacy, given how black people are still treated today?
Given that we have hard evidence of unequal treatment of black people in the justice system (one example) It absolutely has legitimancy. 
Quote:Or what about LGBT Pride?
No considering the vast majority of campaigning for gays has been to stop teens frim being thrown out and to allow them to get married like eberyone else I hardly call it whining
Quote:Lots of people accuse them of whining, too.
and lots of people are fucking stupid[/quote]
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 8, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by c172 - January 7, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by Exian - January 7, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 8, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by Jenny A - January 8, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 9, 2016 at 4:59 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 10, 2016 at 9:52 am
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 10, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by Lemonvariable72 - January 10, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 10, 2016 at 8:32 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 10, 2016 at 8:48 pm
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 11, 2016 at 12:10 am
RE: To call them autistic or people with autism - by MTL - January 9, 2016 at 4:39 pm

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