Old Style Evie/Why "gods" are bullshit.

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Sure, well... therein lies a contradiction. If they made the universe, they are not part of it. That is why I personally use the phrase "reality" (also it sounds cool). So I don't know what difference it makes if this is some sort of reality some guy made who lives in a different reality, to me making one in mine.

Of course, the theist will then probably say "well that's not God", but as far as this reality is concerned, it is. And that other reality may be all there is, made by nothing. Which is why I find the word meaningless when it's simply a matter of which reality they are in. They might be really dumb, even if they can just about operate a computer program, and don't realise it's become self aware.

Trying to define what is "really real" and what is not is something I have given up on. An artificial reality is real to its inhabitants and they can't tell the difference. What "artificial" even means is troubling, since we have no basis to say anything in this reality is "real" because we have no comparison to make. An AR I make might be artificial with respect to this reality, yet this one might be artificial with respect to another.