(January 13, 2016 at 9:02 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I’ve not found anything. Zip. Zero. Nada. So from where do Christians get this idea that no premarital sex is a moral absolute? It’s important because this is one area they point to as why we are all sinners. It’s easy to convince young people that they need Jesus to forgive them for all the sexual thoughts they have. But what does the Bible actually say?here a link geared towards teens to explain what the bible does have to say about premarital sex.
1. Female virginity in the Bible is actually a commodity. It was important that brides be virgins because no man wanted to pay the full bride price for used goods.
2. Abraham made Hagar his wife merely by sleeping with her.
’Genesis 16: 3, 4’ Wrote:After Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Abram's wife Sarai took Hagar the Egyptian, her maid, and gave her to her husband Abram as his wife. 4He went in to Hagar, and she conceived;The wedding ceremony is just that, a ceremony, a public display of something that has already taken place. You don’t die at your funeral and you are no less dead if you don’t have a funeral.
3. In the Old Testament, if a man rapes a woman, he has to pay her father and marry her, not as punishment for having premarital sex but because just like when you go into a store and break something you have to pay for it. Whether or not the woman wants to be in a Luke and Laura marriage is not an issue.
’Deuteronomy 22: 28, 29’ Wrote:"If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, 29then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days
So I guess if they’re not caught he can leave her to face the consequences of being an unwed mother or a daughter who can’t bring her father the full bride price.
Oh, you say, but that’s Old Testament. Never mind that god is the same yesterday, today and forever. Things are different under Jesus. Are they? Let’s see.
1 Corinthians chapter 7 seems to refute what I’m saying. Paul says let every man have his wife and every woman her husband. But as we saw in Genesis, all it takes to make a woman your wife is to sleep with her. And there is still no strict prohibition against premarital sex. No verse that say what order the events must take place. Verse 9 is particularly interesting
‘verse 9’ Wrote:But if they can't control themselves, they should go ahead and marry
Can you imagine a man telling a woman “I can’t help myself. I want to fuck your brains out. Let’s get married.”
The only difference between the Old Testament and Paul is that under Paul the man doesn’t have to pay the woman’s father.
http://412teens.org/qna/why-are-Christia...al-sex.php