Existence of Jesus

[josef rosenkranz]

Are there any atheist here that believe Jesus did not exist?

I think he existed, but I just don't believe he was born of a virgin, that his father was god, and I believe that his miracles are myths.

I just want to see if any atheists believe that he was never even a real person.

The historical existence of Jesus as well as of other biblical figures is a matter for historyans but is of little interest for atheism because Jesus being the son of God whose existence is denied by us, is implicitly denied.
I have read recently a report in a news paper where the author knowing well the hebrew language emmits a theory of how Jesus became the son of god.
I'm presenting it here as a historic curiosity ,nothing to do with atheism
but nevertheless interesting.

In hebrew as well in other semitic languages as arameic which was spoken in Judeea in the time of Jesus the word son is expressed as "ben"
in hebrew, or "bar "in arameic.
In the time of Jesus the population of Judeea spoke actually a mix of languages with preponderence for Greek and Arameic.Hebrew was the religious language of the Jews spoken by the upper classes and known sparsely by common people,who knew from it mainly expressions linked to their religion

Now, the same expression put as a prefix to a certain substantive accentuates it's meaning.For instance the word man is translated "adam"
( yes the same adam from the bible) but "ben adam" means a MAN e.g. a man in his whole complexity ,generally in a positive way.
It is a feature typical only for semitical languages.

It is possible that Jesus living in a period of turmoil which preceded the destruction of Judeea by the Romans 70 years after his birth was at the beginning a preacher and a healer who succeeded to attract followers
and disciples.At a certain point of his career he began to perform deeds which were perceived as miracles possible only for God.
His followers might have begun to see him as God himself which means in hebrew "El".
May be that people enchanted by his miracles begun to call him "Ben El" which would have meant the true the mighty God himself.
Literally translated "Ben El" means also the son of God.

So when the Gospel was written first by Mathew and later by other appostles at approximately 70 years after Jesus' death ,Judeea being
already destroyed by the Romans the double meaning of the word "Ben El" was lost so it was translated from hebrew to greek in his basic meaning as "son of God" and was incorporated as such in the christian faith.

Tha hystory of christianity knows that 300 years after the birth of Jesus when christianity was officialy accepted by the emperor Constantinus ,the matter of Christ beig the son of God or God himself brought the faith on the brink of a deep schisma,which as explained above was a possible result of an inaccurate translation of original hebrew texts or oral tales.