RE: Did Jesus exist?
January 28, 2016 at 10:39 am
(This post was last modified: January 28, 2016 at 10:52 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 28, 2016 at 9:28 am)Irrational Wrote: It's ok to consider Jesus may not have existed, but to date, it hasn't been established that mythicism is a better position than Jesus historicism.You mean, except for all the miracles and magic and non-history that make the character legendary, by definition, and not historical -at the least-? Other than all of that?
The only options on the table for "jesus" are legendary and mythical. IMO, that makes mythicism a better position than historicism by default.
Quote:Also, some thing to always keep in mind, the real evidence for Jesus' historicism is in the context surrounding the New Testament, not the books themselves.Let's see some of that? I have a feeling that it's going to fall far, far short of evidence for a historical jesus. Let's imagine a future, though, in which you do provide knockdown drag out evidence that jesus was really, really real. The character in the gospels would remain legendary regardless (and could still very well be mythical). It's not the "jesus of context exterior to the gospels" that people believe in....and I'm at a bit of a loss trying to imagine what jesus you could possibly be referring to as a candidate for historical in the first place, apart -from- the gospels jesus.
You find a lost book of christ somewhere?
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