(January 29, 2016 at 10:02 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(January 29, 2016 at 1:55 am)Alex K Wrote: NDEs are NDEs, not DEs. They indicate nothing except that oxygen-starved brains do weird things.There is no evidence that any of that goes on "outside the brain". There is however, evidence that it doesn't
But our brains do weird things when we sleep, too. And yet when we wake up from a dream, we know it's a dream. Staunch atheists don't turn Christians from having a dream. Another thing is, why would people who are strong atheists be having dream like visions of God and Jesus in their heads when they are unconscious? And furthermore, why would they have dreams of God and Jesus being goodness and love? It seems that first of all, most atheists think that if God and Jesus do exist, they are evil anyway. Or at least uncaring.
Obviously, something happened to these people that made them change overnight in such a drastic way, from becoming atheists who hate religion to becoming Christians. That's huge, almost supernatural in itself. Can a mere "dream" do that? Could it do that to you?
Now, I'm not saying I believe all this. I have no dog in this fight. My faith does not rely on strangers' personal experiences, and some parts of this story kind of contradict my own beliefs. All I'm saying is the possibilities may be worth an objective look and some consideration. Because it is very strange indeed.
Cl, there are atheists out there who are atheists for the wrong reasons, so to speak. To conclude that there's no reason to believe any deity exists is something you do rationally, not otherwise. Certainly not because you're mad at religion. God could very well exist and a lot of people would still be mad both at him and at what his followers do in his name.
I contend that this is all these experiences really are. Dreams. A lucid dream can appear to be extremely real, even more vivid than reality. You should look into it. It's a fascinating thing about the human mind. It's like the ultimate virtual reality.