(February 19, 2011 at 8:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I call it scientific reasoning VOID, because it's the search for material justification of the immaterial. The hypothesis isn't applicable to the subject. It's really as simple as that.
It's NOT 'Scientific reasoning', it's just reasoning.
Where did I attempt a material justification of the immaterial? I am simply talking about information and for the sake of argument granting that information CAN be immaterial. Does god know things? If yes he has information. A state of affairs with an omniscient deity takes more information to describe than a state of affairs without - No science there, no attempt for a 'material justification', just reason.
Quote:Theology is entirely reasonable. Your quest here isn't.
Do you see a flaw in my thinking or are you just going to moan? I've more than made my case, you've done naught to refute it.
Quote:2. So your "good reason not to believe" is irrelevant?
No, for instance;
Event x takes place, there are two possible explanations, A and B, A is an explanation that can be described with half of the amount of information as B, thus A is the explanation that should be preferred - This in and of it's self is a good reason not to believe that explanation B is the case.
Suppose event x is as follows "Bob hears hooves", Ex A is "it was a horse" Ex B is "it was an escaped circus Zebra" - Based on hearing the hooves Bob should conclude that it was A rather than B, why? Because explanation A is the simpler explanation, the state of affairs can be described with less information - It would be irrational for Bob to believe that it was B.
Quote:The founding fathers didn't simply assert it, they made detailed accounts of their reasoning. You're completely dismissing the notion of divine simplicity, and I'm just pointing out your error to you. Hopefully you'll see that you need look into that before dismissing it without consideration.
Right, because the idea of divine simplicity is at odds with the requirements of omniscience and the reality that the more information you have the more complex you are. The more of anything you have actually, but for this I only need to focus on knowledge - A being can not be both simple and all knowing, they are an impossible combination.
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