(February 6, 2016 at 11:03 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:Just because you believe that god exists, does not make him exist.(February 6, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Jenny A Wrote: My husband has a subconscious belief that if you express a positive belief that things will go right, they will go wrong. It's a common superstition held in the East and in the West. Many people like my husband know it's irrational, yet they feel it's true even though they know it isn't. God is like that for many atheists. So I get what Elizabeth King is talking about. And if you think about superstitions honestly, so will you. It isn't denying what's real, it's denying what's irrational.
But you don't really want to think about it honestly. You want to shore up your own faith. No one prays to have faith in evolution, or gravity, or the big bang. But belief in god requires constant shoring up through prayer. Think about it.
In the meantime you serve a useful purpose here. You demonstrate to doubting theist lurkers the vaucity of your reasoning.
For a long time in my life I was depressed, and went around acting depressed. Then one day I kind of snapped out of it and realized it was a state of mind I was holding on to and when I let go of it, I realized there was no reason to be depressed and I need to be in control of my thoughts and feelings, and not let the depression take over my life.
So your husband actually goes around thinking negatively and expects positive outcomes?
I actually used to think about whether I should really believe in God, but after 15 years of personal research I believe it is the rational conclusion to draw, even though I can see or touch it or even measure it. I believe there is a God, but I'm not forcing anyone else to. That's a personal decision for everyone to make, and it might change at some point in this life or afterwards, or not.
Has your husband seen the film the secret? It's about the law of attraction, which too a point can be true. If you are positive, you tend to have positive experiences, and if you are negative you tend to have negative experiences. The state of mind can determine your perception at that moment. NOt a great example, but when you smile at someone they generally reciprocate with a smile, and if you frown, they do as well. You can do the same with other actions and emotions.
I bet your husband would find this interesting. It's about the law of attraction, and how to attract what you want into your life by focusing on them, and turning thoughts into things.
Edit. The first one I posted was not the one I watched. this is the first 20 minutes of what I've seen before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8
There's a difference between being happy and accepting reality, and being happy in spite of reality.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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