RE: A good reason not to believe in God
February 27, 2011 at 8:04 am
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2011 at 8:07 am by Edwardo Piet.)
DvF Wrote:My point is that the terms "before" and "after" are temporal terms. So it makes no sense to say that anything exists "before" or "after" time since that equates to saying "the time before time" or "the time after time". It equates to nonsense.
(February 26, 2011 at 5:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: For us as temporal beings, no.
No fr0d0, sorry. But this isn't just a matter of whether something is comprehensible for "us temporal beings" or not. This is also a matter of logic. And, sorry, but some things just don't make logical sense or are logically impossible.
"The time before time" is a contradiction and a confusion because we're still actually talking about time so it isn't atemporality we are actually addressing, hence "the time" before time.
(February 25, 2011 at 3:52 pm)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: We can't do anything if we are atemporal. To do something requires at least two moments, it requires time.
fr0d0 Wrote:Do something temporal, yes.
If you're addressing a sort of doing that doesn't involve more than one moment then in what sense is that 'doing' that you are addressing?
As I have already said, an atemporal being would be a being that can never exist. It makes no sense to say that it can ever exist when 'ever' is a temporal term. It makes no sense to say anything is "before" or "after" time when "before" and "after" are temporal terms. Atemporality makes no sense. It is nonsense.
