(February 22, 2016 at 1:23 pm)Lek Wrote:You have unwittingly driven rob's point home.(February 22, 2016 at 7:48 am)robvalue Wrote: It can be noble, and an actual sacrifice, for a human to give their life to save others. This is because it may be the only way of doing so in a particular situation; the only price that can be paid.
But we're always bombarded with tales of how powerful God is and how he can do anything. That means he can do it any way he wants, too. So if his "plan" involves a human sacrifice, that is what he chose. It wasn't the only price.
This is why analogies with humans always fail. The fact that some theists are so ready to draw parallels though indicate what category they really put God in.
So you don't agree with way God does things. If God is God, he has better insight than we do. We don't believe in a God who thinks at our level, but rather is superior to us. Otherwise, as you would say, "What's the use?"
If god's way is superior to our way then it must have been the only way. If he could have done it another way, then he chose the most horrid way, not because it's superior but just to show us that he doesn't give a fuck. If he could not have done it another way, then he is not all powerful. Will you theists ever tire of painting yourselves into this same tired old corner?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.