(February 22, 2016 at 6:25 pm)Lek Wrote:God does make the choice when he doesn't give Adam the knowledge to know good and evil, puts that knowledge in the fruit of a tree then tells him not to eat the fruit. God knew what would happen. To say god is not responsible is to betray an astounding lack of understandingg cause and effect.(February 22, 2016 at 4:37 pm)abaris Wrote: Oh, please!
Jesus is god, according to your own trinity. So he just sacrificed a hull. Been there, discussed that as nauseam.
Secondly, as I already said. God is supposed to be omniscient. So what's the point in tempting, if the outcome is already a known quantity? Just as the Jesus suffering, this only looks good if you don't scratch the surface. But the first question asked inevitable exposes the rust underneath.
God doesn't make the choices for us. You can choose whether to murder someone or not.
I agree that Jesus is God, but I don't get what you mean when you say that God sacrificed a hull. Jesus is man as well as God. When he died, it was a man who died. How does Jesus being God effect the sacrifice?
Then instead of teaching the man, god leaves him to fend for himself and the first time Adam breaks a rule, he gets capital punishment.
Would you treat your child like that? Would you treat your dog like that?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.