RE: Could atheist westerners, please explain?
February 25, 2016 at 7:06 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2016 at 7:14 pm by WinterHold.)
(February 24, 2016 at 8:55 am)Rhythm Wrote: You think that without the west's uncondontional support, isreal would be or would have been annihilated in a single day, and also that "secularism" should have done less. Death to isreal, insha allah.
So long as the pro-isreal faction has people like yourself to point to, to paint the entirety of the opposition with....the situation will persists as-is. So long as your clique insists on rambling like idiots, as above, you will not find a seat at the table if or when the situation does change.
Keep putting words which I didn't say in my mouth, and keep living in that delusion; your loss not mine.
Anyhow in response to the important parts, which are in bold:
The problem of this world, was people like you, who think that self defense is a monopoly; a right, that only they posses and have the right to practice. So no wonder, that you supported the nuclear attacks against Japan (in a previous discussion we had), and considered that a "correct righteous move", while blame me and my kin, for defending ourselves against an invading force, that came to kill and occupy, ironically, just like the founders of your great nation.
RobbyPants
The forth group also exist in the Middle East; Sunni Jihadists carry this line of thinking, so as the Shia Twelvers.
It's a scary branch, on the Christian, Jewish & Islamic side: some are willing to spill so much blood to bring the prophicies true. Scary.
robvalue
Secularism is the prevention of religious thought to reach the ruling chamber; even if a majority supported it. So technically, it carries a type of tyranny in its core.
The idea of secularism itself, is denying me my right to rule with religion, even if the majority was by my side. That's why -for the existence of Israel-, I blame each and every secular person -if they accepted it as a legitimate state-; and accuse them of hypocrisy and bigotry if they didn't oppose Israel.
That was my whole point.
Nymphadora
Throughout history, people repeated what you said; left the bully evil ones who lead, lead them to wars,conflict and battles, until grudges grew and hate covered our globe.
In one argument that can be directed towards this comment, a person who remains silent during a crime, is carrying a burden, too. Your silence, along with the silence of Millions, is just giving the mad leaders more space to do their evil deeds.
If we as a specie, cared for each others and took each others problems seriously, maybe the world would've became a better place.