RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
February 26, 2016 at 2:26 am
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2016 at 2:27 am by Redbeard The Pink.)
(February 23, 2016 at 9:08 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: You say that my statements are assertions and you say that the universe doesn't need an intelligent being behind to make it be ordered. Can you prove this? How is order kept?
What I'm actually saying is that there is no logical reason to infer that order requires intelligence to exist, and you could easily disprove that assertion by giving a logical reason. I'll wait.
Order isn't kept. It's a naturally occurring phenomenon.
Quote:I apologize if I gave you that idea. I believe that the only reason there is anything is because of God who is the creator of everything. Without God there would be nothing.
I know that's what you believe.Quote:Does an organized room demand intelligence? When is the last observable case of spontaneous organization?
The Universe is not an organized room. What made you jump from order to organization? Things don't have to be put into order. They can fall into order.
Quote:What would you accept as proof?
Empirical data.
Quote:behaving consistently and having a way it should function are two different things. If things don't have a function then there isn't a certain way they should work. So justice and love are arbitrary no matter the human consensus. Can you name one thing that has no function?
I'm gonna put this as simply as I can (good luck understanding it):
Reality doesn't have a way that it "should" work. It only has a way that it does work.
If it doesn't have a function, then yes, there is no certain way that it should work, but if it has consistency (even in the absence of function), then there is a certain way that it works, and that can be observed and used to draw conclusions because it's consistent (not because things "should" turn out a specific way, but because they just do).
Quote:Again I apologize that I have not been clear. I believe that it is God who is the originator of justice, science, and love. He created all things and justice and love are a reflection of His nature. He is the reason that life is sustained and why we as humans long for love as well as justice. I do not believe in God because of a religion but because I know Him.
Bully for you. There's no evidence that Gaud invented any of that, and there's plenty of evidence that those things are human words for human concepts, so you don't get to forward the claim that I'm borrowing anything from you or your religion. Justice, science, and love were created by human beings, not an invisible sky wizard.
(February 25, 2016 at 11:59 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: This is TRUTH: God will crush out your evil; with the depths of His love, or with the cup of His wrath
Threaten us all you like; we're not scared of your imaginary friend.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
