(February 26, 2016 at 9:50 am)robvalue Wrote: Whoah, whoah...
Atlas wants to rule with his religion? Am I reading this correctly?
Well, if your God was real, I'm sure that would be extremely easy. Since he's not, tough luck. Secularism is the only sensible way forward for civilization, and if you're against it you're part of the problem you're complaining about.
You see, you might not have noticed, but there's more than one religion. And when two religions with your mindset both want to rule a country, and there's no secular foundation, this is when religious wars happen. Whereas in civilised, secular countries, people of all faiths can coexist without feeling the need to control each other with their personal beliefs.
You think taking away your "right" to dominate others with your religion is persecution? Yeah, no.
Really, rob?
Let's wait, and observe Orwell's 84 as it come true day by day, I like your choice of words; "forward". We're half way there btw, towards the "forward" you speak about. 84, in its best.
Anyhow, I said in my comment:
Quote:The idea of secularism itself, is denying me my right to rule with religion, even if the majority was by my side.
So tell me again how you couldn't see this bold, red word?
"If"; I think; is a conditional statement. So no worries; my religion won't be favored or even counted if the majority was by your side. In sura 2, scroll to verse 256, so my God is forbidding me from forcing my faith on you, like you force your faith on me. Saying that secularism is the only way, is actually, a form of forcing a concept upon me.
But what you're saying is that, even "if" I had the majority by my side, I have no right to rule with Islam ??
So, it is true& possible that secularism & democracy can contradict each other.
Your speech about civilization reminds me with this piece of work:
So, seculars are the keepers of peace now?
No. Religion is just replaced with other labels like nationalism, capitalism & communism, but the bloodshed? believe secularism isn't even close from solving that.
"They have things like the ATOM BOMB !"
Bless you, Andrew Sisters & Danny.
