RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
February 26, 2016 at 10:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2016 at 10:24 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(February 26, 2016 at 5:27 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(February 25, 2016 at 5:30 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: Christianity is the privilege to know a God who would take on your rightful punishment in order to be like Him and with Him for all eternity no matter what the world says about you or God. None of what you said is taught in the Bible.
A religion that believes it's right to punish people for things over which they have no control is psycho. For that god to take on that unjust punishment is masochistic.
That's why I emphasize the nature of the created people... because the Christians would retort that we are the ones who choose to disobey The Rules/Will of God. The psychopathic part is telling us we have a "debt" we did not voluntarily take on, which we must repay by accepting that psychopath's "free gift" of paying the debt to himself if I'll just cower/worship/obey.
That's also why I included the lines about "you chose to" in the narrative, before. It's a sick fairytale.
ETA: It just dawned on me that it's a federal (and usually, also state) crime to do what God is claimed to do. He sends his prophets (who claim to work for him and his son-self) and faithful to tell us about the debt we owe just for choosing to come and open a shop in this neighborhood without their approval, and to tell us that Big Powerful Boss will hurt us beyond belief if we won't join their group. At least, it sounds very similar:
(a) Whoever in any way or degree obstructs, delays, or affects commerce or the movement of any article or commodity in commerce, by robbery or extortion or attempts or conspires so to do, or commits or threatens physical violence to any person or property in furtherance of a plan or purpose to do anything in violation of this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(b) As used in this section—
(1) The term “robbery” means the unlawful taking or obtaining of personal property from the person or in the presence of another, against his will, by means of actual or threatened force, or violence, or fear of injury, immediate or future, to his person or property, or property in his custody or possession, or the person or property of a relative or member of his family or of anyone in his company at the time of the taking or obtaining.
(2) The term “extortion” means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.
Looks like God's getting 20 years... no wonder he never shows himself!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.