(March 1, 2016 at 9:54 am)robvalue Wrote: Exactly. By definition, we're the people who don't want religious people getting trampled and fighting each other. We're literally the antidote but we're being called the poison.
I don't know a great deal about all the history Atlas speaks of, so I can't give any intelligent comments on it. Some people may take it further and have an aggressive agenda vaguely based on secularism. That's not every secularist's fault.
Hmm... hadn't thought about it like that.
Secularism is the vaccine against tribalist infighting among religious cliques.
And yet the irony is that their various mind-viruses tell them that we're the actual danger.
They're anti-vaxxers!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.