I could never be a xtian. I am either too dumb to get this, or too indifferent to the woolyness of it to care.
The desparation of an intellectual clique of theologians and philospohers to project divinty onto a figure from the iron age and prove that it is logically posible, or even likely is amazing. I have no idea how the above begins to address the central problem of a man-god being a contradiction, it seems utter twaddle to me and a hermetically sealed debate between nodding and fawning believers looking at each other in an approving way. In everything I have read there is never a striaght out answer just lots of verbal hand-wringing. I have given up caring.
From all we can fathom out at this historical distance, Jesus (assuming he existed) was a man, a jewish man who was very serious about Judaism and wanted to be the Jewish (earthly) saviour. He carefully stage-managed some events to make it look like he was fulfilling prophecies. He then was brutally murdered for sedition (whether he sought this for matyrdom we don't know), but he never came back. He never was nor claimed to be a god. In so far as we can tell it is also extremely implausible that he ever was becuase no argument can be succesfully made and appealed to, either deductively or inductively. The end.
The desparation of an intellectual clique of theologians and philospohers to project divinty onto a figure from the iron age and prove that it is logically posible, or even likely is amazing. I have no idea how the above begins to address the central problem of a man-god being a contradiction, it seems utter twaddle to me and a hermetically sealed debate between nodding and fawning believers looking at each other in an approving way. In everything I have read there is never a striaght out answer just lots of verbal hand-wringing. I have given up caring.
From all we can fathom out at this historical distance, Jesus (assuming he existed) was a man, a jewish man who was very serious about Judaism and wanted to be the Jewish (earthly) saviour. He carefully stage-managed some events to make it look like he was fulfilling prophecies. He then was brutally murdered for sedition (whether he sought this for matyrdom we don't know), but he never came back. He never was nor claimed to be a god. In so far as we can tell it is also extremely implausible that he ever was becuase no argument can be succesfully made and appealed to, either deductively or inductively. The end.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
