Near death experience of Howard Storm

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NDE's are experiences that don't fit into the current paradigm, but because we need to make sense of our world, we will form various conclusions to explain it. The whole idea that everything can be explained is a desperate attempt to remain sane. Personally I don't think we as humans have it all figured out. . . . The same thing happens when people talk about what they experience when leaving their body. The first assumption is that is must be delusional, because science says it's nothing, and consciousness can't exist outside the brain.

What about NDEs lies outside the current paradigm of naturalism?  Claiming that people leave their bodies is the only hint of something that can't be explained naturalistically, and it's just a bare claim.  You don't know that people actually leave their bodies simply because they experience themselves as leaving their bodies.  That's simply not compelling evidence.  A person may hallucinate a bear in the room; that they experience the existence of a bear in the room is not evidence of an actual bear in the room.  You need better evidence than "they experienced it" to conclude that NDE experiences lie outside the current paradigm.  What specifically lies outside the current paradigm?

Just curious if anyone has done any hallucinogenics, like mushrooms, or LSD, or DMT? I've done mushrooms and LSD. Have had both good trips and bad trips. I still remember the first time taking acid. Walking back from gym class and watching the buildings melt, seeing trails from the cars on the street, honestly it was the coolest experience ever up until that point in life. Seeing things happening in the real world that were not there but in your eyes, were happening at the same time. I remember sitting in my recliner and my friend walking in. He was just talking to me, but suddenly the wall behind him turned into a raging fire, and he grew a beard, and horns, and I thought he was just screaming at me. It is crazy what the mind can be made to think is real.