RE: The Problem with Christians
March 11, 2016 at 1:45 pm
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2016 at 1:50 pm by IATIA.)
(March 11, 2016 at 1:20 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: How the universe began cant be logically proven or disproven either, yet it's here.
at around 40:40 of this video you'll how Lawrence Krauss, explains how the universe began from nothing.
Quote:Why is there something rather than nothing? The answer is there had to be, if you have nothing in quantum mechanics you'll always get something.
We have evidence of the big bang. What we do not have is a 'before' the big bang, (which IMHO is a non-sensical question).
You are correct in that 'before' the big bang cannot (at least at this time) be proven or disproven logically, There cannot, however, have been "nothing" 'before' the big bang. Nothing comes from nothing. What that something is may be unknowable (system within a system problem). Something has always been around. The question is what that something is and that is where "god of the gaps" is thrown in by theists and "i do not know", thrown in by the atheist.
(And for your information, by "nothing" the video is relating to 'before' this universe, i.e., no matter as we know it. It may be that 'before' this universe, there was only 'dark matter/energy' and the 'matter/energy' that we perceive today was precipitated from this 'dark matter/energy'.)
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
