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You Can't Disprove a Miracle
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle
(March 11, 2016 at 1:42 pm)SteveII Wrote: My brother-in-law when a child had a brain tumor. Causing seizureres.  In hospital for surgery. New CT scan taken to map surgery. No tumor. Seizures stopped. Father-in-law was a minister and brother-in-law had literally hundreds of people praying.

                              Pr(H/K) x Pr(E/H&K) 
 Pr(H/E&K) =   ----------------------------------------
                                      Pr(E/K) 

It is helpful to think of H as the hypothesis at issue, K as the background knowledge, and E as the new evidence. Pr(H/K&E) and Pr(H/ K) are called, respectively, the posterior and priorprobability of H. Pr(E/ H&K) is called the likelihood of H; it is a measure of how well H explains E. Pr(E/K) is variously called the prior likelihood or the expectancy of E; it is a measure of how surprising the new evidence E is. 

(H) A miracle removed tumor (hypothesis)
(K) Tumors do not disappear between CT scans in a matter of weeks (background knowledge)
(E) Tumor gone. Symptoms gone (evidence)

The probability of H given K (LOW) multiplied by how well H explains E (HIGH)
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                                 Expectancy of E (LOW)

Probability is high that this was a miracle.

Where is Madeleine McCann?

That's not a frivolous question, now that you've raised the subject of prayer.

Little Madeleine famously disappeared from her parents' hotel room in Portugal almost nine years ago. Her parents spent a great deal of time visiting prayer groups around the world, even having audiences with the then-Pope, yet apart from a handful of spurious sightings she has never been seen again, and is likely dead. So why is this? Why have the prayers of all these thousands of fervent faithful still not been answered? If this god can heal a disease known for periodic remission, why is this little girl - who would be 12 by now - still missing?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 8, 2016 at 10:49 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 8, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Joods - March 8, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Jenny A - March 8, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 11:54 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Brian37 - March 10, 2016 at 1:42 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by abaris - March 8, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 10, 2016 at 9:01 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Old Baby - March 8, 2016 at 4:45 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Crossless1 - March 8, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Brian37 - March 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Brian37 - March 8, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 8, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 8, 2016 at 6:42 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 10, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by abaris - March 10, 2016 at 12:42 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Old Baby - March 10, 2016 at 1:02 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Divinity - March 10, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 11:09 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 11, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 12, 2016 at 7:18 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Mister Agenda - March 11, 2016 at 12:10 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 11, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 2:17 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 2:40 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Rhondazvous - March 12, 2016 at 6:56 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 2:45 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 4:12 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 11, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2016 at 5:33 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 14, 2016 at 8:48 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by Cyberman - March 14, 2016 at 10:10 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 14, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 12, 2016 at 1:48 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 14, 2016 at 9:12 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by ignoramus - March 14, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 8:21 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 14, 2016 at 6:17 pm
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 10:03 am
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RE: You Can't Disprove a Miracle - by SteveII - March 15, 2016 at 11:21 am
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