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Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 12, 2016 at 12:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm still waiting for you to simply say, "When I said Hitler was elected, I was wrong."

I was wrong. I'm 32. It's about time I was wrong once.

(March 12, 2016 at 12:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: He is wrong: you can tell him that a high-school graduate from America has corrected him.

Obviously he was wrong. And it's a long weekend so I'm not going to have a chance to raise this for another week.

(March 12, 2016 at 12:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: As for the rest of your snippet here, that is simply you trying to rescue a slipshod comparison. Trump is the more fascist of the two, but neither of them are "just like Hitler".

Neither of them are like Hitler I've made that point several times. Hitler's policies were at least good for the struggling citizens, whereas Trump, Cruz and the other Republican's policies are absolutely dismal for the poor. But not only are they worse than Hitler on that front, but they continue to support American imperialism - i.e. oppressing weaker States by military force. That's the whole reason that ISIL exists now.

Let's backtrack. Back to my main point. You're looking at the fine details, and that's fine. I was wrong about one fine detail, but I'm looking at the meta details. So again let's consider Germany, and ignore the NAZI party entirely. 1. They lost land following WWI. 2. They had to pay an obscene amount of money to other nations as reparations for WWI. 3. They hit 30% unemployment, their economy was shot, and no ruling Chancellor (or Party) had improved things. Meanwhile, the ruling bodies had promised the people (but failed) to renegotiate the reparations. You see it wasn't Hitler's fault. There were several avenues from which Germany would have joined Japan in WWII and they have very little to do with NAZI policies at all.

Now the death camps may or may not have happened without the NAZIs. But look at American politics. Guantanamo Bay is a concentration camp - not only is it a concentration camp, but it's also a death camp: prisoners in Guantanamo have been tortured to death. The NAZIs at least gassed their victims without inflicting further undue hardship on their victims. True they suffered from Typhus, god-knows what else, and starvation; but those ailments were not intentionally inflicted. Details aside, the war crimes are equal to each other, albeit on a smaller or larger scale. Yet the individual deaths though that the USA inflicted were worse - prisoners in Guantanamo tortured to death.

Right now in Germany they hunt down the incontinent elderly with dementia, drag them into court and then throw them into prison. Yet Bush, Cheney, and everyone else up to and including Obama has gotten away with war crimes scott-free in USA.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


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RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force - by Aractus - March 12, 2016 at 2:08 am

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