(March 14, 2011 at 9:55 am)tackattack Wrote: 3-Perhaps I should better define a soul. My intent was not to be vague. I hope this is "stronger"1. I don't doubt individual cases are interesting and heartwarming, there is ongoing research into NDE. All I would say is whatever has been presented to date isn't very impressive, when compared to neurological studies. In other words there probably is no such thing as a soul.
soul- supranatural aspect of humans that is imparted by God and can be used by the consciousness to inform the mind; contains an object based memory relative to the individual owner; stores an active concept of the mind (both conscious and subconscious); is a storage medium in taking data for reference; survives death and is used in the final judgment by God.
1-I'm not claiming that the evidence is up to scientific empirical standards, I am claiming that it's indicative and warrants more research. You talk about statistically significant quantities but the number of people that survive an actual death experience can't really be a large pool to pull from. Of them, I cited specific cases but the link is from my work computer. You can go back to the other thread or google it yourself again. I agree with my concept that their soul contains "them"
2-I'll save this for after we discuss our definition.. it's getting to be a confusing discussion.
2. OK
3. OK then so lets go with a working definition and test it. So which is true:
- Did my material or immaterial self commit that murder?
- Did my material or immaterial self become changed WRT personality as a result of that accident?
- If I had an accident and became a psychopath would a god hold me to account for the subsequent evil?
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
