RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam?
March 26, 2016 at 2:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2016 at 2:40 pm by Regina.)
(March 26, 2016 at 3:20 am)robvalue Wrote: In my opinion the Quran is much more clearly divisive and dogmatic right from the onset.
The bible is very much both of those things, but the Quran leaves much less wiggle room for doubt. And it rubs it in your face right away. It is more of an effective indoctrination manual than the bible.
Maybe this has something to do with Muslims seemingly integrating less well (in general) than Christians.
The difference to me is "religion + power = Hell on earth"
Islam is fundamentally no different from Christianity in terms of moral values, the dislike of Islam is the result of political power. As I've said before, the reason there's such a backlash against Islam in the modern world is because it still holds a whopping amount of political clout and privilege wherever it is the majority religion, and often demands it where it is not. No other religion currently has this to the same extent, nope not even Christianity
There isn't such a pervasive dislike of Christianity in the 21st century because we're not seeing countries totally governed by Christian and Canon Law, with severe punishments. It's not a crime in most Christian-majority countries to mock Jesus or Mary (it is in a few, I'll give), but critiquing Muhammad is a crime in most Muslim-majority countries, and often with more severe ramifications. That alone says enough about the privileged position Islam has in many countries.
If Christianity was still burning people alive for Herecy in the 21st century we'd have "Christophobia", and it would be justified.
People also love to drag out this "colonialism!" argument as the be all and end all. If it was all about colonialism, we'd also have radicalised Native Americans, Vietnamese and and Hindus blowing shit up left-right and centre. It also has nothing the f to do with the human rights abuses inflicted upon practicing Muslims within countries goverened by Islamic laws. The problem is that neither the left or the right can seperate out the idea of a "political Islam" with it being a personal belief. Defend the personal belief to your heart's content, don't defend the backwards political system.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie