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Why do atheists and liberals like Islam?
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RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam?
paulpablo Wrote:
Thumpalumpacus Wrote:I lived in Iran for four years (before the Revolution) and Saudi Arabia for six months. None of the Muslims I met in either place proselytized me. The Saudi government does push Islam with its laws, no doubt -- as does the current Iranian government, but governments aren't individuals.

To extend your metaphor, I lived in the cages with the bears, and not only didn't get eaten, I got fed -- treated with kindness, respect, and dignity.

Your assumption that I don't know what it's like to live amongst large numbers of Muslims is misplaced. There aren't many here at AF who have more experience doing that than I do, and that is why I speak up about generalizations made regarding Muslims -- because I know first-hand what it's like to be a non-Muslim in a Muslim country.

No I wasn't making an assumption, it was a question. Laws and governments are formed by people.  In the case of Islamic countries they're formed by Muslims.  If their laws push Islam then if you break those laws I imagine you will be arrested by a Muslim, sentenced by Muslims, and that the law was originally put in place Muslims.  Also I'm not generalizing all Muslims, but there is something that exists in Islam called dawah and it involves proselytizing. There's a difference between generalizing Muslims and pointing out they are doing the same thing Christians do.

In democracies, they're formed by majorities and change is painstakingly slow. It was legal for a man to rape his wife in the USA until the mid 1970s and it wasn't illegal in all 50 states until 1993. And a lot of Muslim-majority countries aren't democracies.

My experience with dawah is that it does not involve nagging. They make the offer and if you turn it down, they don't bother you anymore. I wish Christians practiced dawah instead of that annoying witnessing thing so many of them do.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by scoobysnack - March 25, 2016 at 1:33 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Alex K - March 25, 2016 at 1:54 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Esquilax - March 25, 2016 at 11:06 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 30, 2016 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Alex K - March 25, 2016 at 9:21 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 27, 2016 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Mister Agenda - March 28, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Drich - March 31, 2016 at 3:29 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 31, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Joods - March 25, 2016 at 3:34 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Joods - March 25, 2016 at 3:38 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Joods - March 25, 2016 at 8:32 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 25, 2016 at 8:36 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Chad32 - March 25, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Cecelia - March 25, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 25, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Chad32 - March 25, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 25, 2016 at 5:55 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 26, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Cephus - March 30, 2016 at 10:34 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Losty - April 2, 2016 at 2:58 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by brewer - March 25, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Regina - March 26, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by comet - March 27, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - March 29, 2016 at 1:12 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - March 31, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - March 31, 2016 at 5:28 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 31, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - March 31, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 31, 2016 at 7:20 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - March 31, 2016 at 9:01 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 1, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 1, 2016 at 10:38 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - April 1, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 1, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - April 1, 2016 at 10:53 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 1, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 2, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Chad32 - April 1, 2016 at 10:44 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - March 30, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by robvalue - March 31, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - April 1, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 1, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by abaris - April 1, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 2, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 2, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Amine - April 3, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Losty - April 2, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Losty - April 4, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why do atheists and liberals like Islam? - by Losty - April 4, 2016 at 6:12 pm

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