(March 30, 2016 at 9:39 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:(March 30, 2016 at 9:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Maybe you are not quit aware of what the FFRF does. They are a national organization, not an international one.
Their main purpose is to protect separation of church and state, and to protect the Constitutional rights of non-theists.
The only religious group in the US with the power to inflict their unConstitutional, religion based laws on the US are Christians.
They don't seem to care about preserving rights of Christians that much though. Yes though I don't follow them that much, although they are located in my city, Madison WI. What about the Jews for example? I don't see atheist targeting Jews all that much. Not that I want to start the thread in that direction, and maybe it's from my limited experience but seems to be more directed at Christians. For example, I read the opinion pieces in the newspaper from the heads of the FFRF on Christian holidays talking about the need to get away from them, but don't seem to see them talking about Islam or Judaism in that context. Not that I follow FFRF that closely at all, so I'm sure there are instances.
You're really a bit clueless, aren't you?
First of all, protecting the separation of Church and state does protect Christians.
Jews are not trying to get pseudoscience taught in public schools. Jews don't yell "persecution" when Nativity Scenes are removed from publicly owned property, etc.
Again, they don't talk about Islam and Judaism in the same context as Christianity because neither of those religions have the political power base to force their religious beliefs into US law.
Quote:Do you think a child should be able to bring a bible, torah, or koran to public school to read, even if they are not sharing it with others? Do you think Christians should be allowed to give out Christmas cards to their friends at school? What about Jehovahs witnesses who don't celebrate holidays, or even birthdays? Should we accommodate their beliefs and not mention birthdays in the workplace? We had to stop having holiday and birthday celebrations at work to accommodate one Jehovah's witness in my dept to make it inclusive. Instead we had random parties. Do you as an atheist get upset during holidays?
My nephew is quite religious, He brings his Bible to his public middle school in LA all the time.
I do not get upset during holidays.
I usually attend Christmas parties. You do know that almost every single Christmas tradition is Pagan, right?[/quote]
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.