Is woman the center of the universe, or...

[abaris]

In my worldview, and oddly enough, men and women are most interested in the same thing: to get our genes into the future as the next generation.  Men will say and do anything to make this happen, including admitting that they will say and do anything to make this happen.  Each existing persons father was successful in this quest.  Unsuccessful fathers are not represented.

That's a very simplistic view. Of course, nature intended - for lack of a better word - the preservation of the species. That's why an orgasm is fun and not something dull or even painful. But, pardon my french, not every fuck produces babies. And not every fuck is intended to produce babies in this day and age. That goes for men as well as women. Many people even shy away from the thought, since it's not a cheap deal to produce babies. It's a money trap, a life long commitment and often a career hindrance. Especially for women. So, men doing anything to make it happen, is as far removed from reality as it gets. They may do anything to make a good fuck happen. But that doesn't mean, they do anything to make babies happen.