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10 apologist mistakes about trinity
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RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity
(April 1, 2016 at 6:17 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(April 1, 2016 at 5:58 pm)athrock Wrote: Sorry, but for trinitarian baptism or for apostolic succession?

apostolic succession.

One other point, Mystic: While we frequently look to Sacred Scripture for proof of the doctrines we believe, we should not overlook the role of Sacred Tradition. Sacred Tradition contains those truths that the Apostles taught by what they did.

We can see what they did from the writings of the Early Church Fathers - men like Polycarp, Irenaeus, Ignatius and Clement of Rome - among many others. So, what do they have to say about what they observed the Apostles doing with regard to Apostolic Succession?

HISTORICAL BASIS FOR APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
 
One document for the Early Church Fathers is so exceedingly clear on the subject of Apostolic Succession that appealing to any other historical source is unnecessary. Writing in around the end of the first century (and probably before the death of the Apostle John), Clement of Rome, the third successor of Peter as Bishop of Rome expanded upon Peter’s veiled thought contained in 2 Peter 1:12-15 in his “Letter to the Corinthians”:
 

Quote:CHAPTER 42
The apostles have preached the Gospel to us from the Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ has done so from God. Christ therefore was sent forth by God, and the apostles by Christ. Both these appointments, then, were made in an orderly way, according to the will of God. Having therefore received their orders, and being fully assured by the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, and established in the word of God, with full assurance of the Holy Ghost, they went forth proclaiming that the kingdom of God was at hand. And thus preaching through countries and cities, they appointed the first-fruits [of their labors, having first proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons of those who should afterwards believe. Nor was this any new thing, since indeed many ages before it was written concerning bishops and deacons. For thus says the Scripture a certain place, "I will appoint their bishops in righteousness, and their deacons in faith."
 
CHAPTER 44
Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect foreknowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry. We are of opinion, therefore, that those appointed by them, or afterwards by other eminent men, with the consent of the whole Church, and who have blamelessly served the flock of Christ in a humble, peaceable, and disinterested spirit, and have for a long time possessed the good opinion of all, cannot be justly dismissed from the ministry. For our sin will not be small, if we eject from the episcopate those who have blamelessly and holily fulfilled its duties. Blessed are those presbyters who, having finished their course before now, have obtained a fruitful and perfect departure [from this world]; for they have no fear lest any one deprive them of the place now appointed them. But we see that you have removed some men of excellent behavior from the ministry, which they fulfilled blamelessly and with honor.

 
From these two chapters we see that the Apostles tested and approved their earliest converts to be Bishops and Deacons. Additionally, the Apostles gave instructions that when these Bishops and Deacons should “fall asleep’ either due to natural causes or martyrdom that they should be succeeded by other men in the ministry. Note that Clement also exercises his primacy as Bishop of Rome by correcting the Corinthian church for improperly removing some of the “presbyters” from office. The acceptance of Clement’s intervention by the Corinthians is evidence of the authority of the Bishop of Rome, or Pope, even at this early date.

Dozens of ECF's echoed Clement's teaching.
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10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by MysticKnight - April 1, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by athrock - April 1, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by athrock - April 1, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by Angrboda - April 1, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by Minimalist - April 1, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by Athene - April 1, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by athrock - April 1, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by athrock - April 2, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by athrock - April 2, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by athrock - April 2, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by Minimalist - April 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by ignoramus - April 1, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by Minimalist - April 1, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by robvalue - April 1, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by Minimalist - April 1, 2016 at 8:37 pm
RE: 10 apologist mistakes about trinity - by vorlon13 - April 1, 2016 at 10:04 pm

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