RE: Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe
April 15, 2016 at 3:13 am
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2016 at 3:32 am by ReptilianPeon.)
Quote:Aisha, the mother of all Muslims,
I don't get that Muhammad had lots of wives. But Aisha is somehow more special than the others? I think it's not hard to imagine there are "Quranists" out there who think Ali was nice.
Uthman/Othman was a noob. He took away people's Qurans which I think was really selfish a shortsighted. Now we can't see textual variations in the Quran. Controlled transmission, to me, suggests there was something to hide.
But those Twelvers I think you say they will dig up the graves of certain people when the final Imam arrives. This Mehdi guy I think it was. Sounds crazy.
Wahaabi/Salafis emphasize the Salaf (supposedly), like getting rid of Bidah, yet they memorize Hadith. There were no Hadith, as we know them today, the time of the Salafi, right? The Hadith were written and organized hundreds of years after Muhammad. If I were to ask them about this, about why the the Hadith are bad, they will tell me all about Isnad Chains. "Oh yes, the the Hadith are great!" they say. But then every ten year old Salafi/Wahaabi thinks themselves a scholar so they go out an harass people in the World Wide Web and with their "Dawah Tables". Children are not scholars?
It's amazing to me that people say "My religious is not homogeneous" and then they come out with a seemingly never ending list of people who can't be part of their religion because of reason X or reason Y. Hypocritical I think.
I've heard some people say increased "Quranism" is a sign of the "end times". Or just call them "liberal elites". Are you a liberal elite Atlas (2:20 in the video)? That flag of al-Saud's henchmen in Iraq and Syria in the corner of the video..WTF...I'm probably on a terrorist watch list now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s-DiRCa6u8
But, back to being serious, I think Shabir Ali has a much better video on "Quranism" for those interested (I don't like Shabir Ali but his video is more coherent). Apparently we need a "balanced approach to Hadith". But I think most people don't have the time to analyze each and every Hadith, even within just Bukhari alone, lets say, so it's unrealistic to expect the average person to go through all of the collections and all of the Hadith and decide for themselves. So they have to rely on others. But you won't know whose opinions to rely on unless you've done your own research, so you could be easily led astray (especially if you're illiterate, as many people in Africa and Asia are).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBiqdvKlRAw