Shia & Sunna: Why I don't believe

[WinterHold]

Aisha isn't special, there is a verse though describing "all" the wives of being the mothers of Muslims:

Even Eve was the first woman? Literally, if the Quran considers her a literal person (unlike, apparently, the Hebrew of Genesis), she would be the "mother of all believers"? Wahaabi-Salafi are determined to convince Christians (and Jews) that everyone in the Bible followed exactly what Muhammad taught - even when what they taught contradicts what Wahaabi-Safali believe.

Jew drink alcohol - Noah was a alcoholic according the Bible. Christians believe Jesus turned water into alcohol. You provided your evidences that many caliphs drunk alcohol and clarified the Quran Iyah. But all of this doesn't matter to Wahaabi-Salafi - the are at war with reality, and Tasbih, shutting down conversations which they don't like and bombs seem to be their only weapons (and Saudi is a prime example of this). They want to ignore those parts of the Bible and simply tell people that Jesus prays like them according to the Bible and anything else convenient to them.

I knew about the Grand Mosque Seizure. Probably the same people that killed King Fasiel because they didn't want Saudi to have its own television station. Apparently TV was too "Western" for some Wahaabi-Salafi scholars. Yet these are the same people who, today, flood YouTube with garbage to try and convince us Kuffar (and I include you because you do many supposedly Haram things). Funny how things turn out. Interpretation is driven by desire: The more their message spreads, the more money they get from donations, but they are, of course, all subsidized by Saudi. So now we have a breed of Western born so-called "scholars" like the comedic man in the first video.

There was another theory behind that assassination though, the guy who was accused according to the theory, was brainwashed by Washington, not a Wahhabi militia. Sadat -of Egypt- got assassinated in the same time reference. 

It was all about deleting the tracks of 73. Two key joints were moving the scene inside the Middle East: Saudi Arabia -economically-. and Egypt with the military -force-.
Technically. they were drawing the map of the new Middle East, that M.E that would be in peace with Israel, witnesses cannot remain alive though. Both were assassinated.

 The alcohol thing is overrated by Wahhabies. Don't get me wrong; God's revelations and sentences are indeed holy. But wahhabies take stuff like alcohol, women, focus on it, and neglect the verses about murder, stealing, corruption, dictatorships, and all the other things in the Quran.

So for example, dictators like the Sauds murder, torture, steal, but wahhabies praise them at the end of the just because they porhibit alcohol.
A demonic faith, if you ask me.

Probably the kind of man who supports that Saudi Shekyh that recently said it's Halal to each your wife if you're starving. You can look it up. Whether or not it's actually true that he said that I don't know; you know the media. These Western coverts to Wahaabi/Salafi doctrine they care more about money than truth. They go around the world giving speeches where they pretend to educate people. And those they have on puppet strings are too busy with Tasbih (like you say, Allah the ATM) to care that their giving their money to scammers.

I don't know about westerners who turn to Wahhabism; all my experience comes from videos like the ones you share, I have to admit you introduced me to the movement in the U.K; never thought they were so widespread in the west..had my doubts but never did I see it.

Shabir Ali can do that. He's one of the better Da'is (not sure if he's been brainwashed by Saudi like the others, but at least he appears somewhat intelligent). The fact that he actually allows women to show their faces on camera is clearly a sign that he's a lot more sane than many of the others.

What I took away from Shabir's video is: Yes, the Hadith are confusing, but don't worry. Even though people can't agree on which Hadith and real and which are fake, you can buy lots of big and expensive books which will help you to make your mind up. It's up to you to go through each and every Hadith instead of throwing them all out. And don't just limit yourself to the standard "collections" of Hadith. Some outside of the standard collection may be good Hadith too. It doesn't matter that the (singe transmission ones at least) Hadith are like a game of Chinese Whispers, so, go on, delve right 

And notice how they said that they were going to discuss "the nature of Satan" but the never did. That was silly. Those are the sorts of blunders I expect from somebody like DawahMan.

about the video though:

1-It's not very irrisponsible to reject the Hadith; I'm not rejecting what the prophet did or say; I'm rejecting "the way it was collected and documented".
It's more of a "Hadith books rejection", rather than the direct, rash accusation of me and us rejects of the Hadith of being "irrisponsible".

2-I can't interact with the dead..So I would put lots of underlines here: The prophet is dead.

3-The Quran is very obvious. I tried to go through it, and I didn't see Hadith believers fair well against the interpretation. I consider it a blessing from God, if one believe in him, God simplifies things, the Quran is simple, easy to read. 

4-As for the prayer call,or let's say "the details of worships", these are inherited, just like Buddists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, and everybody else is inheriting the rituals of their worship, I believe it's the same here..
It's not like Muslims are unified in them details. "Shia" pray in a different way than Sunna, the prayer call is also different in some lines.

5-Reading history and learning from it is one thing, replacing revelation with twisted historical stories is another thing. The Hadith cannot be trusted, he speaks about the Hadith as if it was a revelation from God.

6-The rejection -as I mentioned above- is derived from lack of trust in the authors.