(April 16, 2016 at 10:36 pm)pool the great Wrote:(April 16, 2016 at 1:37 pm)RozKek Wrote: If we were 100% independent of everything else, everyone would be extremly happy, there would be no addictions etc.
Actually no.
100% independent of all outside variables = non existence.
Everything in the physical world is dependent on *something*,whether it be the physical laws or the amount of money in the bank
This just goes to show how flawed you are on your views of free will. Essentially you're arguing "we exist, therefore no free will." because by your definition we have to not exist to have free will.
Wasn't my view. Anyway my real view (if it matters) is that I don't know whether we have free will. I jus doubt it very much since I haven't found a logical way to describe how it would work and arise. And there are no scientific explanations of how its mechanics would be. I don't know whether it exists or not but I'm leaning towards the non existence view. In the end I'm fine with either.
