(April 18, 2016 at 5:19 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah... except that's not what it says in Surah 2. You're interpreting it to mean the opposite of what it says.
If God wrote this book, I really shouldn't need any help understanding it.
I really cannot get why the idea of "using the 600 pages in the Quran" to come up with the final conclusion is that hard, I mean it's not fair at all to apply this concept everywhere, but stop at the Quran.
Meaning is, you're so wrong if you claim Sura 2 is the whole Quran, what you did rob is that you took one verse and said that it's enough.
It's like a building, the stones are collected from everywhere, 600 pages are there to study before the slightest conclusion is ever made.
Sura 2 has a concept; all the others Suras has the elaboration.
Brian37
All loving is what the Catholic church lied to you and claimed; there is no "kind loving God" in Islam:
Sura 5
( 18 ) But the Jews and the Christians say, "We are the children of Allah and His beloved." Say, "Then why does He punish you for your sins?" Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination.
Merciful, not "loving", he's not a father, he's not a woman.
Kind? why would he be? actually, who do we think we are?
Rather, he loves good actions, he hate bad actions, it's up to you. Wanna be loved do good. Wanna be hated do bad. We get to choose between making our lives a tale told by an idiot, or a tale told by a wise smart mind.
Complaining about the Quran not being obvious is not justified, I mean you guys are stopping at Sura 2, and make the final conclusion. I don't know in which law is that valid.
About the west: I love marylin so much:
He's lost. But he's spot on in so many things.
Aside from that, so we don't get sidetracked, it's lovely to domistically be good to people so they don't revolt, but you export your radiations and poisons to the deserts of Arabia, supporting dictators and filling our gulags with children like me, the kids of war and peace, grow up inside the guts and gores your western jets make of us, piercing through our skin and flesh in the sake of interest and economy.
1 pound of my flesh every second, cut and used to feed the old continent.
Islam is justice. you can't see its effect, because it's not practiced anywhere.
And it's not like we're fighting over interpretation, I never fight for interpretation, go ask Shia and Sunna why they have tendency behead who oppose them, under the excuse of "demon possession".