(April 23, 2016 at 12:47 pm)Time Traveler Wrote: @DrichNo.
Wow. Just... wow. Your evidence is a delusional dream/hallucination about Jesus and hell along with an anecdotal story about some kind of psychic homeless angel who magically knew everything about you?
God's evidence FOR ME what what I relayed to you. But here's the thing. What I received has been offered to everyone, in one form or fashion.
I'm not special.
Quote: When you say, "But again, with a hard heart these experiences would have been forgotten as being a dream and a hichhicker would made a few dozen lucky guesses." It's not the heart that would question these experiences, it would be a rational mind employing critical thinking, something which you clearly abandoned when your heart softened along with your head.What in your little mind makes you think I did not run these experiences through the mill several times? All these things happened to me when I at best had a roman catholic view of Hell, judgement and angels. Non of which is consistent with what I experienced. Then one day I heard that the validity of a dream vision of experience from God has to be consistent with what the bible teaches. And in the case of prophesy their can be no wrong 'guesses.' I have then spent the next 20 years in study not selectively validating what I saw but actively challenging my experience in Hell and watching my life unfold as I was told it would.
Again validation comes through vetting through scripture. Scripture that I knew nothing of when the experience happened.
For me, that was proof. (that and the experience it self does not play in memory as a dream but a tactile experience.)
Quote: Then you draw analogies from a karate movie which has no bearing on whether God is objectively verifiable or visible. I will grant you this, however: Mr. Miyagi and Daniel are just as fictional as your God.It is a very Small mind that refuses to see what has been simply explained. The analogies demonstrated the humility needed to see and receive the type of 'proof/trainning' God is offering. You are demanding God teach you 'karate' as the YMCA taught Daniel san, and God just dropped a bucket at your feet and told you to wash and wax a bunch of old cars.
If you want what God is offering you will have to do it His way. He will not meet you 1/2 way.
Quote:As for hardened hearts, try this experiment: Stand about 20 yards away from a brick wall that you can actually see. Run full speed. Harden your heart. Pretend the wall is not real with all your might. Don't raise your hands. See if the brick wall vanishes. If it does, that would be evidence that tangible things vanish with a hardened heart. Or, if you actually see short Jesus again while you are actually awake, try the experiment with him. Run straight at him, harden you heart, and see if he magically vanishes before you crash into him.So Sorry sport. I used and defined what a hard heart is already, you can not redefine it so as to invalidate my analogy, that's not how analogies work.
Quote:From what you've described, God/Jesus is so weak, he literally cannot appear to me if my heart is hardened.Not can't.. won't. God does not love everyone the same.
Quote:(I wish my in-laws were that weak.) God/Jesus is so insubstantial as to only appear in dreams or hallucinations. (Conveniently never in any public venue to be caught on camera.) God's presence is so obscure and inconsequential that "if your[sic] looking to see only through the visual spectrum and don't know what to look for then there would be no way for you to know if you've seen the evidence of God or not." (Which is indistinguishable from God not being there at all.)Again, says who? the dbag who only sees a guy washing and waxing a line of cars? that only sees a guy sanding a wood deck? Someone who can only see a guy painting a fence? Again, God is manifest in the world around you, but you are expecting these big grandiose gestures, and have over look the demand for humility he FIRST requires. So to you all you can see is a world without God.
It is not up to me, nor God to provide you with anything but the demand he has made that you first Humble yourself, and allow Him to lift you up.
Quote:Clearly, I'm upsetting you since you can't abstain from calling me "douche" or "D-bag".You are all d-bags to me, calling you that infers no emotion. Too me a douche bag is a term of endearment (one that pisses the proud off.) So there is a double benefit for me to use that word. One it is a fulcrum I can supplant or use to push you off center just alittle (If you think yourself to be everything your not which kinda goes with the definition) and two it allows someone like you the opportunity to demand a panic stop to the conversation if you find your in over your head. granted you want to make me look 'crazy emotional and weak which will work too, but typically the self righteous will use it to call my faith/Christianity into question. Eitherway it's there for your use. use it any way you wish.
Quote:So the last word in this discussion will be yours, if you chose to take it.Indeed I shall I think that word will be: "Depot" Why is it pronounced Depo if it is spelled Depot??? Shouldn't it be pronounced D-Pot? And if we pounced it D-pot do you think Lowes' business would improve?
And if we are going to end on a Sesame Street note I would also like to take the time to say this message is also sponsored by the number 13. (it's my fav number.)
Quote: Although, if you get this short, "active blue-eyed" Jesus on video, let me know. Or, if you run into magic psychic angel homeless dude again and, assuming he isn't also camera shy, post him to YouTube. Until then, I'll assume you have absolutely no empirical evidence to offer whatsoever and leave you to your private delusions where you can wax-on, wax-off with Jesus as much as you desire.This is the douche' kinda thing I was talking about. You wanted to speak to someone who actually knows what Christ looks like. then you flame out on a post ranting about how I do not know the details you ask, then when I actually do, you mock what I have to say. Completely unwilling to discuss the particulars in which I actually validated my experience, never mind even discuss the possibility of having your own 'doubting thomas' encounter. So which is it? Do you want to see God or don't you? Or do you not understand that is how it works? My encounter with God is for me and my life, and He offers this to Everyone on a personal level? That's why we don't 'need a video posted to the youtubes.'
Then, You offer me the last word, and I give one then you go off the rails on your own crazy train trying to pick and unravel something that is not there. (apparently my dangerous emotional state, because I called you a douche bag) Get over yourself sport you are just the newest version of douche bag on the website, Every make and model of douche is present here you are the same vinegar and water packaged in a different bag.