(April 27, 2016 at 10:53 pm)The_Empress Wrote:(April 27, 2016 at 10:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: Prayer can't be tested because no one can say how God will answer prayer, I have a question for you, how do you know there's no one listening, a little proof to go along with your affirmative statement would be nice? You all spout that there is no God all the time but in truth you do not know, you can't be sure, however I am sure the God of the Bible is real, you're living a chancy life.
GC
Meh. In my view, chancier would be living life according to dogma put down by uninformed, ignorant men thousands of years ago, and cherry-picked by uninformed, barbaric, and controlling men hundreds of years after that.
If the god of creation chooses to damn most of the atheists on this board, it's his loss. For the most part, we are a decent, empathetic, charitable, hard-working group of people. If we're not whom he wants in his kingdom, I'll pass on being included.
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I'd agree with Samuel Clemens, there, but science can show that it's nicer in Hell, anyway:
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A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
