(April 29, 2016 at 3:25 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(April 29, 2016 at 1:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: For someone who can recite the entire Bible you sure do not us it to defend your position. God's proved it to me and many others.
GC
Why in the world would I want to use that evil book of absurd fairy tales to defend anything? And if you have proof beyond your baseless "my own personal experience with my imaginary friend" assertions, present the proof. I'm sure that a huge portion of the human population would be interested in having verifiable proof of a god, or of an afterlife, or even that prayer gets measurable results. If you can't present any proof other than "god has proved it to me", then you're just wasting your time blowing hot air.
I'm not wasting time, I'm giving you what you missed when you were younger. It's a personal relationship you can't earn it, it comes by grace, unmerited love. God's actions can't be measured, when you learn what eternity is as related to God, you just might get a hint. God shows himself through nature the nature He created and there are more atheist scientist who are abandoning atheism because they see the complexity of life isn't possible without an intelligence and they are referring to the God of creation. Like it or not science advancements are slowly putting evolution in the grave where it belongs.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.