Problems understanding naturalistically the beginning of the universe

[LadyForCamus]

Wry,

Are you trying to convince us that you are right?  Honestly, why are you here?  Please understand that you will likely never persuade an atheist that God exists by using the bible.  So...what is your angle here?

I would swear if it wouldn't be a sin, but I can tell you the truth that I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. One of my fundamental beliefs is that every human being is able to choice whatever they want and that they are responsible for their choices. Even more, I totally agree with the second article of the Declaration of Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.", and if you are curious about why I agree with all of this the reason is simple, because God behaves this way! He doesn't force anyone to love Him at all, even Jesus said that: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.", so please, get me right on this, I am here merely for the purpose of debate end because I am curious about the atheism I once shared, its origins, its effects on the people and its consequences. I don't believe a true christian should convince anyone of anything. By trying to convince people you are sinning, because you are thinking egoistically, you just want the person next to you to have your beliefs because you consider yourself superior to the another one. If anyone is interested in asking me about my faith I will answer gladly and I will always give my opinion on everything based on my faith, but I will never force anyone to believe what I say.

Well, I appreciate what appears to be a genuine response from you, so thank you. Perhaps it would be more productive for everyone involved if you bring up the specific issues and ideas that you're interested in debating. This approach might help us distinguish you from the steady line of trolls that come in and out of here like a revolving door.

If I may say, I think you are operating under the wrong, though seemingly innocent assumption that atheists don't know anything about Christianity. Many of our members have thoroughly studied the bible, and many of us are former Christians ourselves. Myself included! So, don't assume we have tons of questions, and don't assume that the reason we are atheists is because we have knowledge gaps regarding Christianity. Just a few suggestions; you can, of course, take them or leave them. [emoji41]