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Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 9:51 am
According to Nobel Prize winner
Quote:There was an earlier universe before the Big Bang, and evidence for its existence can still be observed in black holes, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist has said.
Sir Roger Penrose made the claim after recently winning the award for breakthroughs in Einstein’s general theory of relativity and proof of the existence of black holes.
Sir Roger argues that the existence of unexplained spots of electromagnetic radiation in the sky – known as ‘Hawking Points’ – are remnants of a previous universe.
It is part of the "conformal cyclic cosmology" theory of the universe, and it is suggested that these points are the final expulsion of energy called ‘Hawking radiation’, transferred by black holes from the older universe.
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 10:19 am
(October 10, 2020 at 9:51 am)Eleven Wrote: According to Nobel Prize winner
Quote:There was an earlier universe before the Big Bang, and evidence for its existence can still be observed in black holes, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist has said.
Sir Roger Penrose made the claim after recently winning the award for breakthroughs in Einstein’s general theory of relativity and proof of the existence of black holes.
Sir Roger argues that the existence of unexplained spots of electromagnetic radiation in the sky – known as ‘Hawking Points’ – are remnants of a previous universe.
It is part of the "conformal cyclic cosmology" theory of the universe, and it is suggested that these points are the final expulsion of energy called ‘Hawking radiation’, transferred by black holes from the older universe.
Of course, creationist know-it-alls are probably already denying it because it contradicts scripture.
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 10:42 am
While this is certainly a possibility, it is very far from being proven or even to have any supporting evidence.
Penrose did some very good work a couple of decades ago, but has been getting more and more 'cranky' as time goes on.
For example, his ideas about microtubules and quantum gravity are rather, well, out there.
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 11:22 am
Penrose's CCC model depends upon unexplored physics conjectures. It's make-believe.
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 11:30 am
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 12:15 pm
It's possible that this universe is just another rendition in an endless cycle of universes.
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 1:11 pm
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 10, 2020 at 1:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2020 at 1:15 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(October 10, 2020 at 11:22 am)Angrboda Wrote: Penrose's CCC model depends upon unexplored physics conjectures. It's make-believe.
Which is probably why the Nobel Committee didn’t consider it. There’s precedent - Einstein won for optics, not relativity.
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RE: Another universe existed before ours
October 11, 2020 at 9:48 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2020 at 10:09 am by Anomalocaris.)
Penrose’s previous universe “theory” Now is hardly In the same class as Einstein’s relativity had been in 1921.
In 1921 relativity was a rigorously formed theory susceptible to falsification across a wide range of predictions, and some of its predictions having already been experimentally verified and thus it was already making a big splash in the world of physics. But the Nobel committee made the not unreasonable judgement that granting such an overarching re-write of physics recognition for success based on a small number of even strong experimental supports is premature.
Penrose’s previous universe “theory”, on the other hand, probably perturbed only those who weren’t in the field of physics but heard he got a Nobel prize.