(May 3, 2016 at 3:14 pm)paulpablo Wrote: It really doesn't matter much either way.
Humans are fragile, weak animals who have to defecate and procreate and eat food = God.
Humans are amazing and unique seperate from animal life due to our amazing intelligence = God.
I don't see how either implies there is god or not a god.
a desolate universe doesn't prove to me there's no god and a complex intelligent brain DEFINITELY doesn't prove there is a god to me.
It baffles me when religious people point to human uniqueness in comparison with other animals as a sign of god. We're the most intelligent ape and that inherant ability is magnified by a strict culture of education. Take away that culture of education and have a baby raised by dogs you don't get a kid who's going to work for NASA, advance medical science or do any "unique" human things, they're going to walk on all fours and shit in the corner.
You have to be kidding me?
It most certainly says to me there is no god or gods or a God, marginally more powerful or all powerful. Ever consider that maybe humans simply made them up as a projection of their own qualities, fears, desires and narcissism?
The word for humans projecting their own qualities on non human objects or non human ideas is "anthropomorphism". Deities/god/s reflect the societies of the majority they popular in. Funny how Allah is more popular in the Middle East, while Bhrama and Vishnu are more popular in India, and Jesus is more popular in the Americas.
Your sense of fair play does not come from scientific probability, but from your empathy and being raised under a legal system where everyone goes around saying " You are entitled to your opinion". It is well intended "splitting the baby" a laypersons term, not a scientific standard.
Billions of suns in our galaxy alone. 100s of billions galaxies in our observable universe, a universe of mostly empty space. That says nature to me, not a a cognition, just like you accept that lightening isn't caused by Thor. Just like you accept that the ocean god Poseidon does not cause hurricanes. If a tornado doesn't need a god to cause it, why would anything in the universe, or the universe itself need a cognitive cause?
Humans have that delusion that because we create and build, then something must have built us. No, instead we should KNOW that were are merely a temporary blip in an unthinking natural and non human giant weather pattern.
Stephen Hawking, "A God is not required".
If you want to play the game "how do you know if you haven't been everywhere in the universe or haven't lived your entire future yet"
Ok, "technically" since I don't know the future, I "might" one day fart a full sized Lamborghini out of my butt. But is that really a high probability we need to consider at all with the know about the size of standard cars and the human body?
"We don't know" is a cop out. Science still strives to discover new things sure. But there is also lots that we already know and lots of bad claims that have been scrapped in the past because they never worked in the first place. The god of the gaps answer does not work.
