RE: Problems understanding naturalistically the beginning of the universe
May 4, 2016 at 12:52 pm
(May 4, 2016 at 4:44 am)Wryetui Wrote:(May 3, 2016 at 7:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
I do not blame any of you because the Orthodox Church, even if it has aproximately 350 million members online, is not so well known because of its lack of involvement with the media and the world in general, but still, I believe it would do very well to further discussions to have in mind that both parties should leave prejudices aside.
1) 350 million members. So, is it your position that the other 7 billion, 650 million people on this planet who are not Orthodox have it wrong?
2) In this case, for both parties to leave prejudices aside, you would have to be able to at least consider the possibility that god does not exist. Atheists have studied scripture (although without the writings of the Orthodox church fathers) and most have come from a place where we believed that god existed. That belief died. I no longer believe unsupported claims. Scientific evidence would change my mind.
So putting prejudices aside is pretty much impossible, here. Because you're not going to stop saying "But I know that GOD!!!!" and we're not going to stop saying "prove it". And you'll wave your 1700 year-old preachers and books in our face, and we'll say "that's not evidence". Now, if you manage to come up with something more interesting - - - that would be good for a change.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein