(May 2, 2016 at 4:04 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Despite the respect Stephen Hawkings, read his lines to sense that ego I'm talking about:
http://www.cnet.com/news/stephen-hawking...is-no-god/
Well, check this out: Hawkings claiming that the universe "began from nothing"..
How does this male sense?
If this is the general view, then this is the exact topic of my post: human ego.. We are Gods; they claim and say.
I think hawkings made the biggest mistake in his observations, when he neglected God's possibility and role..Einestine, though, was walking on the logical path:
Quote:Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in apersonal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being".[1][2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_...t_Einstein
I would personally say that he was a better scientist..with all respect to Hawkings..
Ego though..that human ego..
For a starter, Einstein rejected the idea of religions, at least the abrahamic religions. He was a pantheist he believes that the nature/laws of the universe is god, which in a sense is quite irrelevant, he has just redefined god. Not only that, but he believed in a non personal god which is not sentient and doesn't interact with humans which is the opposite of the god in your religion. But no matter how incredible and amazing he was, he too has no evidence for his beliefs.
Regarding Stehpawn Hawking who is also a brilliant mind, I'm pretty sure he is very intelligent, a genius and way more logical than the majority of us, so he knows what he's talking about. Also what you're doing when you're saying that his claim "The universe began from nothing" is nonsensical is you're using everyday logic as a counter argument while he's using physics and especially quantum physics which is (based on my knowledge) nowhere near the everday logic that we use.
It's not easy to debunk years of scientific work from brilliant minds with a few simple questions. But if you're gonna ask questions do it correctly and search for the answers instead of trying to figure out the answer with your mind alone and think you've "won" when you fail to find an answer. Also, let's say we have no knowledge at all about the origin of the universe etc. How does our lack of knowledge prove god's existence and if you think it does, how exactly does it? You're saying that we tiny humans suck, we're dumb and fragile, full of errors, in that case why can't you accept the statement that we humans don't have unlimited intelligence and will most likely never know everything? And that, yet again still doesn't prove god's existence it just shows our lack of knowledge.
