(May 6, 2016 at 1:24 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(May 6, 2016 at 1:06 pm)Godschild Wrote:
I've read all that before and no real proof against the flood is produced as the Bible describes the flood. As for the fish many, many fish have no problem living in fresh and salt water, and we know that salt water and fresh water do not always have to mix when brought together, the Amazon is just one example. The amount of fresh water mixing in with the salt water would have formed many very large areas of brackish water where even more kinds of fish could live with no problems, as they do today.
Yes I read some of the article until I saw that it's a repeat of what I've read before, don't think I haven't studied these things. The whole deal is no one today was there at the time and can't know what all happened or was possible. The flood can't be reproduced and so what scientist try to prove by paper work doesn't always result in reality, many papers that have been published have later been found to be untrue. Why would I take the writer of the article seriously when he shows no respect for Christians and the same goes for you.
GC
Yes, I understand that sites such as the "Institute for Creation Research" post pseudoscience and lies to try to prove that all of the scientific data is wrong. But the data is not wrong. This is not proven "by paper" it has been proven by hard math, geology, archaeology. The flood didn't happen, and I can't fathom anyone WANTING it to have happened - a god so incompetent and evil that he decided he had screwed up and drowns his creation. And your assertion about the fish is unbelievably absurd.
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The mixing of salt and fresh water would have killed many fish, tremendous oceanic turbulence would have killed others, and still others thrown out of their normal habitat would die of starvation.
Aquatic species such as the various stingrays, which spend most of their time in close proximity to the ocean floor, would be repeatedly bashed against the bottom of the ocean, a collision they would be unable to survive even once. All coral reef fish, and the reefs themselves, would meet a similar fate, and yet the fossil record oddly contains perfectly preserved coral reefs in strata that creationists claim were deposited by the flood.
The global flooding and the extreme turbulence caused in the Noah's Ark myth would have stripped the earth of topsoil. This would have caused extreme problems for aquatic species that require clear water, and they would choke on particulate concentrations nearing 30%.
All of that is speculation and the math being done doesn't mean the math is correct, especially when the math is based on assumptions that could very well be wrong. Let me say this, there are rivers in this world that stay muddy and I mean extremely muddy for months and fish survive them every year. There are rivers that rage so hard they would completely destroy heavy metal boats, yet fish survive in them all the time, they even manage to feed in these rivers with little difficulty. The scientist that wrote the paper needs to get out into the world and experience nature at it's finest, sitting behind desks and speculating things to try and disprove what they truly don't want to be true. It's beyond me why people with such good minds wouldn't want to find out how God did these things.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.