(May 7, 2016 at 5:54 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: RhondazvousI have conversed with you before, and developed respect for you. Perhaps we can come to an understanding here as well.
I look at it as a description of reality, the concept is that the ultimate form of power rules, we see it everyday, the cycles of the sun and the moon for example, enforce themselves on us, if I described life on earth as a "powerless,dependent object", then I'm describing reality: take off the sun and the moon, and earth will starve.
The concept of God is the same, but on much higher scale. Since he is the ultimate form of power, then we will subdue either forced, or willingly, just we subdue to the cycles of the sun and the moon, to the lack of oxygen in the cosmos...etc.
It only seems bigoted and hurts, when the God we worship is a human-like entity like -in my opinion- Jesus or Buddha, Zeus too.
And Islam, between all religions, does indeed say "don't try to imagine God because you won't be able to"...That's my concept anyhow
A human don't get to enslave you, after all.
No, we cannot imagine god. If we even describe him as a he or a she, we bring him down to the level of human language, so to even speak of god we are forced to speak lies. A righteous god would not send me to hell for not being able to do more than I was created to do. He won’t send me to hell for not believing in any of the gods men have told me about.
There is so much confusion because of all the gods men have created. Why does an all-powerful god allow so much confusion? If the message he gave to Muhammad is the only way to know him, why did he allow humans to walk in darkness until only a few hundred years ago? Were the humans who lived before Muhammad so evil that Allah deemed them unworthy? How could there be any reason beyond the power of an all-powerful god? And why am I threatened with hell for not understanding what is beyond human comprehension?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.