(May 7, 2016 at 11:16 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I find there are far too many versions of a historical Jesus to even make it worthy of anything other than dismissal. I find it analogous somewhat to theological non-cognativism/ignostism.
-Hammy
Abraham Lincoln is characterised in several different ways by contemporary writers as well as historians, so is Adolf Hitler. So for that matter are many other historical people. How is your argument even remotely valid, when we have one writing in particular that makes extensive use of one of the teachings of Jesus (the sermon on the mount) before it was even written down in any of the gospels? How did the author (James the Just) come to know about the teachings of the sermon up to 30 years before the Gospel of Mark was published? Where did he learn it from?
(May 7, 2016 at 11:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The best evidence is probably the Q document:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source#S...ature_of_Q
I disagree, the best evidence is Acts from chapter 13 on, the early writings of Paul, the Epistle of James, and the Gospel according to Mark. Mark's gospel has no resurrection - the cornerstone of today's Christianity, neither does James, or any of Paul's writings. The author of Mark simply believed that Jesus ascended to the celestial realm after death, and that's also what Paul believed. Whereas Matthew, Luke, and John teach that he ascended to the celestial realm in his physical body, then returned to Earth in a Resurrected body and appeared to people (i.e. the 'Resurrection'), and after he was finished doing that he ascended again to the celestial realm.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
