RE: Heaven seems awful 2 me-"Theist laughs at loudly & with great cruelty"
May 11, 2016 at 2:40 pm
(May 11, 2016 at 1:01 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: So - you're saying essentially the same thing that I said. You're saying that that other guys are wrong. They claim to be led by the Holy Spirit too, but either the Spirit's message is being blocked or warped, by their own preconceived notions or wrong teachers. My point is if the Holy Spirit was capable of sending a clear and concise message, there would be no blockage, and no wrong teachers. Everyone who was being led by the Holy Spirit would be in total agreement - no matter which church, which version of the Bible, which culture or language.
Wait, so you're saying they're just making this "inspired by the holy specter" interpretation stuff up?
Mind... blown...
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.