(May 12, 2016 at 11:44 am)Nymphadora Wrote: I never said he was a genie, but when you are a child and you are taught that god is everywhere and that he loves you, then you start thinking it's a lie when he sees you getting beat with a belt every day for seven years and he does nothing to stop it. Or better yet... when your grandfather molests you for three years and again, that magical sky daddy who you've been taught to believe can watch over you and protect you... isn't doing what everyone tells you he can do.Do you think you were molested because your grandfather didn't love you?
Yeah. Some god.
It isn't about wishes, drip. It's about the bullshit indoctrination kids are put through and then when bad things happen, god doesn't do his supposed divine thing. It casts all sorts of doubt. Naturally, asking questions about why god never got me away from any of that was something I asked time and time again, but never got an honest answer to. I finally found the answer myself when I learned that it was all bullshit.
Do you think you Were beaten because your father wanted you dead?
Or is it your belief that real love means that nothing bad can ever happen?
Ever watch Dateline or 20/20? If someone was murdered it is always the spouce. if not them then the girlfriend or better yet one of the kids.
Your example is EXACTLY what I meant by viewing God as a Zeus/Genie type. You can't tell me that if your dad was really adept at beating you or your Grandfather was really molesting you for all that time and you could trade 'good deeds or worship' for 'granted wishes' you would have 'wished' your way to a better life.
You were wrongly told God loves you.
God Agape' You. Agape' is a greek word that describes just one aspect of the word love. That aspect of the word love more closely identifies with the 'respect' part of love. In otherwords "God so loves/respects the world that He gave his only son..."
You were looking for a God that "Storge" You. Or protects/Love you like you think a parent should. God does not offer Storge. Infact in this life we are told to expect to be treated harshly. That fact that harsh treatment came from a place where you feel entitled to be safe, is... unfortunate, but our societal entitlements do not mandate God. Why? because we do not live in His world, He gave this one to us and we promptly handed it over to Satan. This world is litterally the closest thing Satan will ever have to a realm under his control, and your life experience is a direct result of that.
God's Agape' offers us a way out of this, that's all. He does not offer protection for All threats in this life or this world. which is why I said you have to be willing to let go your idea of Zeus as God. You can not trade worship for granted prayers or wishes.
