(May 16, 2016 at 9:44 am)pocaracas Wrote:seriously?!?!?(May 16, 2016 at 9:03 am)Drich Wrote: Ah, I wrongly assumed all people who claim they want proof of God, do and are willing to search for it.
You don't mind God comming to you, you are not willing to go to God.
Does that sum things up?
How do you search for something that doesn't exist?
Do I need to make a video to explain to you that in order to declare something does not exist in a particular frame work one must have complete mastery/understanding of everything in that frame work? For instance I can only say that squid meat is nonexistent in a Big Mac If Indeed know that a big mac only contains to all Beef Patties Special sauce Lettuce Cheese and a sesame seed bun, and I know what is in the 'special sauce.' There can't be any unknowns if I state something does not exist.
Where you fools believe you have complete mastery and knowledge of the whole universe, in reality there is only educated guessing based on observations made from a singular point in time, and from a fixed point in space. It is From this limited universal view, you stake your claim that God can not exist.
Otherwise your foolish question should have been phrased "How do you search for the unknown/unknowable given out current 'scientific methods?' Rather you infer complete knowledge of time and Space and claim God can not exist.
Quote:How do you search for an idea?It depends on the Idea. It all starts with research. First isolate and identify those who claim to have contact or knowledge with what you are looking for and then explore methods of contact.
Quote:How do you search for dragons? and faeries? and wizards?There you start with a definition.
Dragons can be identified as reptiles, plants, or even women. Fairies could include gay men, birds, and even a lost race of humanity. Wizards could be an Adj the describes something wonderful, to a frequently asked questions tab on a software package, to the Greek use of the word that describes a pharmacologist.
Again, inorder to take an objective look at what may seem as the fantastic requires grounding both parties into a set of definations that outline what is the pair is looking for.
Now obviously when you say God we both can agree your idea of it does not exist as you've no doubt tried to sumon your idea of a deity and it has left you flat. Naturally you being the center of the universe as YOU know it assume when I say God we mean the same deity you have already dispelled.
My point here in this thread, is we are not talking about the same thing. Meaning all you've done you whole life to disprove God does not apply as your "tinkerbell" is not nor does it have anything to do with the ancient race of humanity I've discovered.
Quote:How do you search for a god?You explore the claims the God makes in his holy books then you talk to followers. See if you qualify for a claim then follow through with it.
Quote:Assume such a thing exists and then voilá, you're convinced it does.Assume that what believers do and voila' you can shut your mind off to any unpleasant "thinking." perfect reasoning, huh?
Quote:I'm sure psychology is beyond your pay grade, but I'd invest in learning some about it.As I am sure everything written here goes in one ear and out the other as it is not in youtube form, but still yet I give you the benfit of the doubt from time to time even though I know it is a waist of time.