RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 18, 2016 at 5:16 pm
(This post was last modified: May 18, 2016 at 5:35 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(May 18, 2016 at 4:52 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So you're really saying they didn't pray the right way. You're full of shit Huggy. You can't claim to have science on your side and then say the results are tainted by scientific rigor when they don't agree with you.I'm saying YOUR particular study was tainted.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...ish/prayer
Quote:prayer
Pronunciation: /prer/
noun
1 A solemn request for help or expression of thanks addressed to God or an object of worship:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...ish/solemn
Quote:solemn
Pronunciation: /ˈsäləm/
adjective
1.2 Characterized by deep sincerity:
Your own quote.
(May 18, 2016 at 1:54 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: By faith do you simply mean 'confidence' or 'trust'?
If I put it this way: "The prayer of confidence shall save the sick", By your article stating that; "Some participants complained that this mechanical way they were told to pray as part of the experiment was unusual for them." shows that there was no confidence in what they were being told to pray.
(May 18, 2016 at 4:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(May 18, 2016 at 4:20 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Why do you guys always fail to link your sources?
From ABC news
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=132674&page=1
*emphasis mine*
So...god only helped those people because a randomized group of strangers chosen for a research study were assigned to pray for them? Otherwise, what? He would have let them die of heart attacks or strokes? Was there a threshold? Like, was God sitting up in heaven saying, "if they reach 100,000 prayers I'll save the guy. 99,000 just isn't going to cut it.
Not to mention, the insinuation that we can change people's fates (down to their very life or death) with prayer flies in the face of the notion that God has a divine and personalized plan for each and every one of us. I was meant to die at 50 of a stroke leaving my entire family alone and penniless, but thankfully enough people from experimental group B prayed for me so God changed his mind! 'Absurd' doesn't even come close.
You're acting like that article came from a religious source...