No one is an atheist

[Zen Badger]

If atheism is simply a non-belief in God, then no one is an atheist. I don't mean that "everyone believes in God, they just don't know it." I mean that atheism is an attribute of an ideology, but it isn't an identity in itself.

I think you'll have to clarify as this statement makes no sense at all.

I've had several conversations with atheists that goes something like this:

"God doesn't exist. He's a fantasy just like the tooth fairy or santa claus."
"Well, what do you believe, if you don't believe in God?"
"It's not about what I believe, the burden of proof is on you. You are the one who believes."

I may be the one who believes in God, but I am not the only one who believes. All people believe. Making inferences about reality is a necessary part of survival for humans. Atheism is just a general term for belief systems not based upon God.

I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to make, yes.... all people have all sorts of beliefs. We here just don't include your petty little sky tyrant in them.

IMO, if you can't admit that you have your own beliefs, you are a coward.

But we just have.

You are afraid to have your beliefs questioned, put under the same skepticism that you use against those that believe in God. Marx was a communist. Bertrand Russel was a rationalist. The Dalai Lama is a Buddhist. All these men are atheists, but they all have a specific system of ideology that is debatable in reasonable terms. To just call yourself an atheist without saying what you do believe in a debate is to have the discussion drowned in irrationality.

OMFG, just count the unfounded assumptions in that rant.

This is mostly what I've seen so far on this forum. Most of you don't have a formulated idea on anything, you just hate.

Please provide specific examples or you are talking out of your arse.

It's the same kind of prejudice that many religious people function under.

No it's not, think what prejudice is. To pre judge someone or something. I.e that person is a sinner because he/she is gay.

Doesn't matter who they are or what they've done, they are SINNNERs!!!!

We, on the other hand, look at what someone has actually done, then condemm them for their actions. Quite a bit different you would have to agree.
For instance, on of my hero's is Father Bob Maguire, a catholic priest from Melbourne who represents what the church should be(No co-incidence that the hierachy tried to remove him).

If that's what truly disgusts you about religion, perhaps you could realize that you don't need a religion to be a bigot. You also don't have to be a bigot to be religious.

But it certainly helps.