RE: Trump now tied with Clition nationally according to Real Clear Poltics average
May 23, 2016 at 2:00 pm
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2016 at 2:00 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(May 23, 2016 at 1:06 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: China invaded Vietnam because Vietnam invaded their friend Cambodia first. China tried to mediate peace talks - but they failed. So, in the end, they invaded Vietnam (which had already invaded Cambodia which they saw as being too pro-China; this being the time of the beginning of the market reforms in China). Pol Pot was an opportunist and noob, so he gets no sympathy from me. But if your friend was being bullied, wouldn't you want to protect them? Are you seriously suggesting you wouldn't protect a friend who was being beaten up?
China supported Pol Pot. What more do you need to know? Do you need me to spell this out for you?
(May 23, 2016 at 1:06 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Neither the United States or China has ever really adhered to the Geneva Convention. And if we're to bring up centuries worth of misdeeds then we can talk about the American Indians, the Philippines and Banana Wars, etc. What I'm saying is the United States has killed more people than China - especially if we limit ourselves to the post Cold War period.
You missed the point -- it is you bringing up centuries of American misdeeds, while not doing the same for the Chinese, yet acting as if you're making an equal comparison. You're not. You're cherry-picking history, is what you're doing.
(May 23, 2016 at 1:06 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: There is a long list of countries that have done nothing to deserve being interfered with by the United States - far longer than any list of Chinese interference. Call me a Chinese apologist if you want - I will proudly endorse that title -
That says it all, then. Where do you live, anyway? Europe? South Africa?
I'd be my ass and my right arm you don't live in Tibet. Yours is an opinion easy to proffer from the comfort of your desk chair.
(May 23, 2016 at 1:06 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: but the United States is a country of never ending war. Obama has been ordering so many bombs to be dropped the military has been running out of bombs in recent months. You have to admit the Oval Office think lives of the people of the third world are worth less than those of Americans.
The alternative explanation, which seems to have escaped your scope of thought, is that the US military has not maintained its bomb factories to the extent that would allow for ongoing offensive operations.
Of course, that doesn't comport with your view of America the Evil, so no doubt you'll discard it.
I'm done with this conversation. I had thought I was going to get interesting discussion on foreign affairs, not simple-minded polemic from someone crippled by bias.
Good day.