RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 24, 2016 at 4:26 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2016 at 4:28 pm by Angrboda.)
(May 24, 2016 at 2:42 pm)Drich Wrote:(May 24, 2016 at 11:57 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're beginning to sound like a used car salesman, Drich.Funny that you mention that.. One of my business has me own a independent car dealership. (We do sell used cars but most of what we sell are new.)
That said sincerity is the quality i believe you think is thinning. I can assure you that I believe and stake my own eternal existence on what I have shared. I'm all in here penny and pound.
No, I mean you literally sound like a used car salesman.
(May 24, 2016 at 2:42 pm)Drich Wrote:(May 24, 2016 at 10:02 am)Drich Wrote: Why? Is it because I am simply reading what is on page and stopping with what is on page. Not filtering it first through the traditional church view?
Quote:You're stopping at what's on the page is one problem. There's ANE literary traditions which you fail to take into account, for one. Reading the passages in Genesis 2 it becomes clear how each segment of Genesis 2 is connected with some variant of the Hebrew word for 'and'. This concatenation of events is not an indicator that they all happened contemporaneously, but that they form a series of events, starting I guess you can say on day 3, but not limited to day 3. You're no bible scholar, Drich. Others have looked at the Hebrew for millennia and come away with different answers. I trust them a whole lot more than your reading of English "Easy To Read" versions of the bible.....I have made no bones about my lack of understanding and education. That however makes no difference in my usefulness to God. Before I came here I spent 5 years debating and studying under men like you have describes and over time I found that they (like you) rely on a 'traditional understanding, and their educations in that tradition to validate what they believe. To them, and to you I ask, if your prize of knowledge is based on tradition, then what separates you from the Pharisees and Sadducee that Christ had such contempt for??
This is quite the leap you're making here. I don't know much about Pharisees and Sadduccees and Jesus attitude toward them, but I doubt it was based on a contempt for people who practice good scholarship. Re: where did Nod come from, etc.? Again, you're asking that it all make sense and is consistent. These are ancient myths you're dealing with Drich. A lot of times they just didn't make sense (not speaking of the bible in particular, but myth in general). Your problem is you require it all to make sense and be consistent. And it leads you to postulates such as your monkey man which really have no foundation in the bible other than in your overly literal and poorly informed exegesis.