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Things I don understand
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RE: Things I don understand
Thanks you guys, I've really got a lot of valuable information from your posts. 5 posts already... thats quite many to me.

First, I'm glad to find what I was thinking was wrong, ppl here have their ideology based on discreet rationality.

I personally think it's quite oxymoron for these terms like "christian socialisit" or "christian right", but they do exist, I think its as bizarre as "queer muslim". For the first one, if your a socialist, then you should be atheistic, for the second one, I read about Jesus, and I really can't help thinking what kind of a party he would get if he's doing the same thing in US today. He is way more left than a right.

I'm from the country that might be "ruling" the world together with US in this or the next centruy Tongue. I did make a mistake, some of you may be a socialist first, then atheism may be "collateral". That's why some of you may appear on the left to me.

As for social issue, I'm really not a big fan of welfare state. My country did under go a violent revolution in order to build a socialist state. And medicare was free for a while, but the problem was we didn't have sufficient human or material resources. That is, if you have something more serious than flu, you sure can get free medical attention, but usually from poorly trained amateurs with herbal remedy.

Then again my country sorta undergo a certain reform and brought in market economy. For me, it performed quite vigorously. Dramatic changes and development had taken place within decades. But there still is problem, a lot ppl can't afford those fancy new medicines.(Oh how sarcastic) But gladly, same medicine is still much cheaper than canada, since our annual income isn't that significant anyway.

Another reason I'm not a big fan probably be because I resent "lazybum goverment". I think a society should encourge ppl to create rather than to just take. I'm not talking about breeding parasites - no, not that harsh, but saying that social-darwinism does make a lot sense to me. If your born of a rich family, then your chance of getting a better education is far greater than a poor one. And in a similar fashion, if your parents are both college professors, your chance of becoming a scientist if far greater than those who have peasants as their parents. So for a country's greater good, I think it's better let those family in bad shape sorta "vanish", of course, they all have the right to continue breeding, and by "bad shape", I do not mean economically disfunction, but also spiritually disfunction. Taking Kafka as an example, hadn't been his family, he wouldn't have that kind of problems "getting along" with the society, and we wouldn't have a genius. In a sense, social-darwinism isn't subjective, it's objective.

Of course, if you are a socialist, then you probably would think what I just said rightly proved your point, it's the capitalism's nature caused all these fuss. Well, my reply would be idealism (you have to admit all these left theories embodies more or less idealism) have a significant gap with reality. I don't believe Stalin was born to purge those who didn't agree with him, I don't believe the whole point of Lenin was to have someone like Stalin to carry out those historical tasks either. How come the ideal is so good, but the reality turned out so ugly? Do not get me wrong. I do appreciate those effort to make ppl live better. But how many Pol pot can a country afford? They are all man of faith, perfectly faith, thats why I think faith is dangerous.

As for cuba, yes, it is a socialist state, but things are still quite different from what it was supposed to be.And for south america, I strongly suggest not putting much hope on them. For example, I think Chavez isn't even a socialist, he is a popularist, thats why he appears as a 'christian socialist'. Why Soviets attack afghan? Becuase muslims think giving women formal education is offensive. For Soviet leaders, barbarianism worth waging a war on. If your going to embrace a modern ideology like socialism, you must abandon everything it opposes. Unless all you want is popularity, in order to get more power for your own purpose. And give me an update if I'm wrong, venezuela flows quite a deal of oil to US every year.

I don think it's just christians think life must have a purpose or a mission or something like that, I think most ppl do. If you keep reflecting your exsitence, and find it's quite meaningless since someday, you will have to return to void after all, then why bother doing anything now? Why even bother coming into existence? I guess thats the point religion kicked in: your made by certain supreme being, you will go through a series of test, then you can have eternal life. I'm from a pretty much mundane, atheistic country, most ppl here don't think about this question at all. They just do what they are "supposed" to do:eat, sleep or watch a movie.

Again, thank you for your reply, and thank you for your precious time reading my rant in awful english. Here is my another question, do you all embrace a specific philosophy?
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Messages In This Thread
Things I don understand - by Scientificist - March 28, 2009 at 8:41 pm
RE: Things I don understand - by Kyuuketsuki - March 29, 2009 at 4:51 am
RE: Things I don understand - by Demonaura - March 29, 2009 at 6:16 am
RE: Things I don understand - by padraic - March 29, 2009 at 7:45 am
RE: Things I don understand - by bozo - March 29, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Things I don understand - by Eilonnwy - March 29, 2009 at 5:01 pm
RE: Things I don understand - by Scientificist - March 30, 2009 at 11:08 pm
RE: Things I don understand - by Eilonnwy - March 31, 2009 at 10:38 am
RE: Things I don understand - by Edwardo Piet - March 31, 2009 at 1:31 pm
RE: Things I don understand - by Demonaura - March 30, 2009 at 11:23 pm
RE: Things I don understand - by Kyuuketsuki - March 31, 2009 at 11:44 am
RE: Things I don understand - by Eilonnwy - March 31, 2009 at 7:21 pm
RE: Things I don understand - by Rob - April 1, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Things I don understand - by Demonaura - April 1, 2009 at 2:18 pm

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